The SH*T List!
Companies and/or people
who have given me bad service or ripped me off!
I've put up a page on this
lot so you don't make the mistake of dealing with
them.
Atec computers
in Thailand are the first offenders. (bloody thieves, they are)
Aopen computers
are the next..
Coyle-Hamilton Insurance , Ireland, are last, and are the
worse financial offenders.
ATEC
Computers
The computer that I'm writing this
on is an Atec Sunrace 780T. As a laptop computer, there's really very little
bad to speak of it, but the same certainly can't be said of the customer
support from Atec themselves.
The short version of the saga of getting
this computer running is this; At the start of 1999 I was looking at getting
a laptop to use for when I'm overseas (like I am right now, in Fiji ...) so I
can keep myself entertained and update my web pages more often. At about that
point a friend of mine mentioned that he had a laptop for sale. It was pretty
much exactly what I was looking for, so I said I'd buy it. It was complete, but
lacked a functional power supply/charger. My friend said that he had sent an
email to Atec and they were all to happy to send a new power supply/charger in
about 10 days or so.
I only wish it was
that simple!
I quickly found that to get Atec's
attention, a single email was not enough, and that a good ten or so was needed.
So, I had to resort to nearly email bombing them to get any sort of reply. I
also had three email addresses for them, but
only one would reply at all!
The first problem was that I sent
them a bank cheque to pay for the power supply/charger, and after about a week
or so there was still no package on the front doorstep or even an email. So,
after another quick multiple-emailing,
they finally came back with "No, we haven't received any cheque."
I then re-checked with my bank, and
they confirmed that the bank cheque had arrived and had been paid. I emailed
this back to Atec, who asked for a copy of the cheque details. I'd just moved
house at that point and so it took me a while to find it, but I did eventually
send it. But in any case, after a lot of hassling & chasing them up
they came back and said that they'd found the money (it had actually been
recieved a couple of days after I sent it) and they'd be sending the power supply/charger
the next week. This didn't happen, as I had to chase them up over the next month
or so to see when of if they'd sent it.
I got the run-around
as a reply.
I finally got completely sick to death
of their BS, and sent an email stating quite clearly that I DIDN'T want the power
supply/charger, and I wanted my
money back right now.
Please note that this was NEARLY FIVE
MONTHS AFTER I'D SENT THE CHEQUE !!!!!!!!!!!!!
One reason is that because of my work
commitments it often takes me quite some time to keep track of things like this,
but the main reason is that Atec seems to hate their customers, and tells dirty
rotten lies to them ...
But there's still one
last surprise!
Four days after I'd emailed them saying
that I want my money back, the power supply/charger arrived on my doorstep! I
guess that out of shock I accepted the package, but I really should have sent
it back to Thailand. (But I realise that with their previous track record the
amount of trouble
this would have caused just would not have been worth it)
Now get this - I checked the date
on which the package was sent, and it was TWO DAYS AFTER I sent the email NOT
to send it, and to give me my money
back!!! The bloody rat-bags have basically STOLEN my money!
They have also refused to answer any
emails, including the one where I told them not to send the package, so again
their clearly poor standard of customer service (which as you've seen includes
delays sending paid-for packages and then
stealing your money anyway) shows through.
So, to sum up, do not Atec
computers unless you want to be ripped off and stuffed
around for a few months.
AOPEN
Computers
My main desktop computer uses an Aopen
AX6BC, and again by and large it's an excellent motherboard, but the customer
service leaves a lot to be desired. Right from the start, the computer
would lock-up completely for no apparent reason (CTRL-ALT-DEL even wouldn't work)
and although by using certain programs I could repeatably and consistently make
the
computer lock-up, I just couldn't figure out why it was locking up ....
(No, there was no IRQ conflicts, unusual
set-ups, etc)
So, in desperation I turned to the
Aopen newsgroup for help. A few people tried to help, and some were doing a reasonable
job though others just wouldn't read what I'd written, the main people I wanted
to get help from would NOT answer
- Aopen.
I could see plenty of other threads
where they'd helped people directly, but they would not respond to any of my
postings. I even resorted to the almost-email bombing style that Atec required
to get any sort of answer from, but to
no avail.
Finally, one person came up with the
answer - The AX6BC boards DO NOT LIKE running with a Celeron PPGA CPU in a Slot
One adapter card. I couldn't stand putting up with the lock-ups any more, so
I bought a genuine Pentium 2-400 and
fitted it straight to the motherboard.
ALL of the lock-ups
disappeared!
I posted this to the Aopen newsgroup,
and challenged Aopen to respond, but again they would not reply or help at all.
P.S. - I tell a lie about the lock-ups
.... the darn thing STILL locks-up completely sometimes when I try to write
to the floppy drive. If you look through the Aopen newsgroups, this is mentioned
a number of times by users wanting a solution, but Aopen will never reply
to it - They obviously support their product only when and where they desire
- not when it's in the 'too hard basket', unfortunately ...
I haven't bothered chasing up the
floppy problem yet, especially as Aopen refuse to help, but I guess I'll have
to fix it one day.
I work for an Irish pilot contractor
company, and they run their insurance through Coyle-Hamilton Insurance, also
in Ireland. In late 2000 I left my band-new Hewlett Packard in the secure
lock-up in the company run section of the compound in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.
At the time I left the country I was supposed to be coming back about two
weeks later, but it ended up being closer to two months. In that time, the
bag containing the laptop was stolen from the secure lock-up. I put in a
claim to
Coyle-Hamilton, via my contractor company, in late December 2000.
I chased them up via email every month or two, to see what progress was being
made. The usual reply was that they were still looking into it. From talking
to other people who have had to deal with them, I knew it would take a long time.
Anyway, after nearly A YEAR of emails I finally got sick of waiting, and sent
a far more strongly worded email to them & my company asked WTF was going
on. They said that the claim had
been denied because "the laptop was not stored in a safe place." For over a month
after that I attempted to get some sort of reply from Coyle-Hamilton, but they
would not provide me with information of what they specified a 'secure place'
was. I then rang them up, and talked to a gentleman who promised to look into
it. He then emailed me and said that the file was closed and put into storage,
and it had been denied because I had left the laptop at the airport. I emailed
them & called telling them that I clearly stated that I did not leave
the bag containing the laptop at the airport and they had obviously not read
my report on the matter, which included a signed statement from the company Jeddah
station manager stating that I had left the bag in the secure lock-up, which
had never had anything stolen from it previously.
Coyle-Hamilton said that the case was closed and there was no reason to open
it again.
I have tried to get some of the Irish insurance ombudsmen interested in the case,
but they all seem to pass it off to someone else.
So the irony is that the insurance company that insures against theft are in
fact the thieves themselves, as they have distorted & ignored the facts so
they say they don't have to pay out.
So would you use them for your insurance company?
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